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1. #1    Here is the story from the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/health/policy/08health.html?_r=1&hp
   
   Before everyone starts jumping up and down, I am curious as to what kinds of concessions the Dems made besides the abortion one?
   
   Here is one quote from the article: "Democrats were forced to make major concessions on insurance coverage for abortions to attract the final votes to secure passage, a wrenching compromise for the numerous abortion-rights advocates in their ranks. They hope to make changes to that amendment during negotiations with the Senate, which will now become the main battleground in the health care fight as Democrats there ready their own bill for what is likely to be extensive floor debate."
   
   And in addition the manipulation of Medicare is going to take a hit. Did you realize that Medicare was not a part of the health reform? I could have sworn that it would be. Isn't that why it is called Medicare?
   
   Oh well, this does get curiouser and curiouser!!!
   written by Sparrows since 14 days 4 hours 32 minutes
2. #2    So close.
   
   Thank you Dennis Kucinich and progressives for voting against this trillion dollar giveaway to the health mafia. (Fake Progessive Weiner had his twenty minutes of fame, withdrew his Single Payer amendment, and voted for the health mafia.) This evil bill was carried by Blue Dog Dimocrap votes because it bans health exchange plans from covering abortions.
   
   Dimocraps are no longer the lesser weasels. Dimocraps are Rethugs.
   
   P.S. Sparrows, despite the high flying words the bill doesn't really reform Medicare. I just takes a few hundred billion from Medicare to give to the health mafia.
   written by Mike5000 since 14 days 4 hours 26 minutes
3. #3    You express my sentiments exactly, Mike. I was being facetious. Medicare will be reformed and those using it now, may not like the impact. It appears it is for the negative, like everything else.
   written by Sparrows since 14 days 1 time 7 minutes
4. #4    Mondale had the answer to all this last time it came round. A bill to cover all CHILDREN under medicare.
   Hard for even Republicans to vote against children... Then expand it down line allowing anyone to buy into medicare.
   A 1900 page bill reduced to two sentences...
   I have also noticed that the words PUBLIC and GOVERNMENT have come to mean THOSE LESS WHITE THAN ME...
   It it is what has the blue dogs peeing their pants...
   written by rackjite since 13 days 19 hours 51 minutes
5. #5    Now it's on to the Senate.
   written by CwV since 13 days 19 hours 15 minutes
6. #6    Ditto Mike5000 - My Blue Dog supported it - she also supported the Bankruptcy bill and other such crap.
   
   Here comes the shit sandwich........
   written by PHred42 since 13 days 18 hours 7 minutes
7. #7    ....and here comes the barrage of "it's not perfect but it's the best we can do now, and we can fix it later....take a bit of the shit sandwich, act happy and shut up" crap from the Left media.
   written by PHred42 since 13 days 17 hours 59 minutes
8. #8    That's the practical approach, PHred. The alternative is to just take it.
   written by CwV since 13 days 17 hours 51 minutes
9. #9    i am like many i want health care for everyone and universal health care.When i heard in the house version the bill will be paid for with 400 million in medicare cuts,that women had been sold down the river,i did not jump for joy.the writers still claim it will control health care cost,how? Also the bill goes to the senate,the people bought and paid for by the health care industry .We will see how many other poisen pills are added before an "acceptable" bill is passed
   written by godblessfdr since 13 days 17 hours 10 minutes
10. #10    As we have learned to expect, everything this 'Democratic' administration and congress does will be disappointing.
    
    America after Bush needed a Barack, but got a Barry instead.
    written by quousque since 13 days 15 hours 58 minutes
11. #11    I am not impressed, just a shifting of the power / funds from one party to the other.
    written by sparkzzz since 13 days 15 hours 44 minutes

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